Wednesday, February 19, 2014

Post 1 Follow Up - Jungling Details

During the discussion that ensued, a few additional questions were raised in regards to jungling as related to non-Chen/Enchantress players. The first bit was in regards to how the jungle damage looks like in regards to jungling heroes. Here is what I was able to come up with (large):




This chart estimates the amount of damage a player would be taking from the various camps, to show their impact. The D1, D2 and D3 are the damage/10 of the various kinds of creeps in the camp. This really showcases the importance of killing the biggest creep in the camp ASAP as the damage usually drops by 50% or more when they die.


Second subject that was brought up was the question in regards to Stout Shield effect. I have revised the math since I put up the original chart for significantly greater accuracy. The new chart accounts for quite a few factors:

  • Included Vanguard for comparison
  • Included PMS; the numbers are identical to the Stout Shield
  • The damage block is governed by pseudo-random distribution, resulting in approximately 53% block chance for the stout shield/PMS and 66.7% block for Vanguard
  • Damage blocked is applied before any damage reductions from armor, which has a beneficial effect on final damage taken
  • Made the amount blocked be more realistic



Vanguard is not usually built for the purpose of blocking creep damage, but it has a dramatic impact on the amount of damage it’s able to block. This also illustrates precisely why the various large creeps hurt so much – their slow attack and chaos damage result in minimal damage reduction from what they are able to dish out.
While I was researching this, I discovered that stout shield is able to stack with itself with diminishing results. The final result of the blocking is approximately 83% chance to block 20 damage. Here is the comparison chart between 1 Stout Shield, 2 Stout Shields and a Vanguard:




Not sure if this will be relevant to anyone, but the damage reduction for very fragile junglers could be significant.

Thanks for reading!

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